DREAMS of the EMACIATED & APOSTATE CHURCH
5/22/08
anonymous / interpretation & comments in red by Priscilla Van Sutphin
The below dream is not mine. The person who got it wishes to remain anonymous. I have added my interpretation/comments as related to her.
Dream#1....I was a teacher in a school. It was of mixed ages and races. The ages varried from kindergarten to High School, and they were all in the same building.
(It was a primary school I was in when I was a little girl.)
As a teacher, I was very upset with the behavior of the students. They were all (without exception) Nasty, and rude. Some were immoral right in the hallway. They wouldn't listen to instruction. One teenage girl was with two boys in the hall. I picked her up, and slammed her against the lockers, yelling; "You ought to know better."!! Then we seemed to move into a huge 'multi-purpose' room
Teacher in a school. The church is a place of learning about Christ Jesus. This represents the overall church as it is mixed ages and races. WE are the children of God, represented by the students here - rude, nasty, many immoral, unteachable. Reminds me of 2 Tim 3 in the way Paul described it would be in this hour.
The person having the dream, frustrated with the condition of the sinful church slams someone against the wall saying YOU OUGHT TO KNOW BETTER. Indeed we have such advantages the rest of the world doesn't have, yet we take advantage of the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ. Many of us are fed up with the system of the false religious church.
Suddenly, i heard the voice of the Lord . He was deeply grieved at the 'children'. He was standing in the hallway . He did not enter into the room we were in. He stood at the doorway, and shouted in a deeply grieved tone of voice; (I cannot remember all of what He said, but this is it paraphrased); "You have twisted my words and my sacrifice to suit your own life and selfish needs .I died for you all, and you have slammed my death right back in my face." ...(Something like that, it was like He was saying they were putting Him to death all over again...)
Her exact words were that what Jesus said was much like Glywn's word on the 8 bells posted at bottom of this page again...Jesus is standing in the hallway, not willing to enter in, grieved in His heart over the condition/behavior of His children.
reminds me of:
Heb 6:4-6 NKJV
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Heb 10:28-31 AMP
28 Any person who has violated and [thus] rejected and set at naught the Law of Moses is put to death without pity or mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. [Deut 17:2-6.]
29 How much worse (sterner and heavier) punishment do you suppose he will be judged to deserve who has spurned and [thus] trampled underfoot the Son of God, and who has considered the covenant blood by which he was consecrated common and unhallowed, thus profaning it and insulting and outraging the [Holy] Spirit [Who imparts] grace (the unmerited favor and blessing of God)? [Ex 24:8.]
30 For we know Him Who said, Vengeance is Mine [retribution and the meting out of full justice rest with Me]; I will repay [I will exact the compensation], says the Lord. And again, The Lord will judge and determine and solve and settle the cause and the cases of His people. [Deut 32:35,36.]
31 It is a fearful (formidable and terrible) thing to incur the divine penalties and be cast into the hands of the living God!
He then suddenly turned and left, walking rapidly down the hallway as if to say; 'I'm out of here". I ran after Him, "Please stop! Don't go!" I shouted after Him. I caught up with HIm, and grabbed hold of His garment, while kneeling on the floor. When I said stop, He stopped. When I said "please don't go", He turned then turned around and faced me.
This represents the intercession she has gone through pleading with Jesus not to leave, to come down. She represents the remnant church pleading for His coming back to His church and restoring it !
This is how He looked;
While He had His back to me, it appeared that someone had taken a whack at His hair. It was cut short and blunt.(It didn't look good).
In what follows, some of which is shocking, Jesus stands for the BODY OF CHRIST. Thus this hack haircut represents the destruction of the covering on the head of the body of Christ, rent by traditions of men, and sinfulness in the body.
I also noticed that His robe was abnormally short. Above the knees...Both of these things made Him appear undignified.
This also allows for exposure of his legs [ legs represent our WALK with Jesus which is being exposed in this hour to reveal our sinfulness. We indeed are very undignified in the way we act without respect for one another.
He then turned to face me, and I was shocked at what I saw;
His robe was open in the front, exposing all of His flesh.
His skin hung in loose folds- He was so emaciated. He looked like a victim of a concentration camp.
This is the starvation in the body of true apostolic teaching that glorifies Christ and which teaches us to suffer WITH HIM. [ see Col. 1:24 amp.]
Weak/starved - lacking in our immune system which is the true Word of God.
As I was kneeling there, I noticed huge wounds in His right side.There were three of them. They were inches in diameter, and jagged. I was horrified, and touched them.
In addition, the weakness in the Word has made the body vulnerable to the attacks of the enemy who has shot us through causing great damage to the body. Like someone shot with shot gun.
I also noted , as I was kneeling before Him, that He had no male parts... NOTHING. In its place was a huge incision...it was as if somone surgically removed all of His male parts and then stitched up the incision.
(He looked awful!)
This in the body represents the castration of JEZEBEL in the church who has destroyed the capability for intimacy with Christ Jesus, and castrated the body's ability to be EFFECTIVE in reaching out to others with the love of God. Jez is known for her emasculating men. But in this case the body of Christ removing all reproductive capability.
His face had the mixture of; grief and anger. He didn't say anything to me.
Even when He stood in the Hallway, children were pushing passed Him, not even aknowledging He was there. They either didn't see Him, or didn't care.
As long as I had hold of Him, He stayed. As soon as I let go, He took off again down the hallway. End of dream #1
This is an extremely bad commentary on the church TOO BUSY to notice even that Christ is there in their midst. They are too busy commiting spiritual masturbation, [ as the Lord once spoke to me ] doing their OWN THING rather than having intimacy with Him.
DREAM #2; This happened the next night after I asked the lord for some confirmation about the last dream.
In my dream, I entered a room, it looked like a 'room that was in an old church. It was empty of people. I noticed something strange. There was a life size, life like crucifix stuffed up a chimney. He was facing outward, but was upside down. As if someone wanted to put Him out of the way.
His legs and feet which were nailed to the cross,were stuffed up into the chimney. I went to take a closer look.
Being stuffed up the chimney....gotten rid of, denying His headship.
Empty of people, as people are leaving because HE is not made preeminent, instead MAN has become preeminent, and the Lord's manifest presence is missing ! And she notes...AS IF SOMEONE wanted to put Him out of the way. Indeed this is true in many cases because MAN wants to be first and idolatry to self [ jezebel] has reigned. Traditions of men, and men's plans have become preemptive. Also NO preaching of the CROSS. Only prosperity, greasy grace, love that is not balanced. And persecuting those who walk in truth, makes for empty churches too. The thought also came of how witchcraft has infiltrated the church also because an upside down cross would indicate that, some moving in witchcraft and witchcraft control have stuffed the LORD OF GLORY out of the way. There have been some dreams lately about that.
I thought to myself; "Is this real?. (It sure looked real)
I poked His side very gently with a pin, and there gushed out blood and water..It was literally a flood. I panicked..."Oh no...what did I do??"..........end of second dream
The seer, wondering if this was real, pokes him with a pin...
PUSHING for the reality of JESUS, wanting TRUTH. Perhaps representing the body of the remnant, pursuing after the reality of Christ, and wanting to test, like Gideon, what is real, presses in, poking with a pin....praying for break through ? And suddenly a FLOOD. I believe there will be a FLOOD as the REMNANT keeps pressing in, PRAYING, & PRAYING & INTERCEDING which in the past has been what led to real revival and awakening.
Years ago the Lord told me the third awakening in America would come like a FLOOD such that the churches would not even be able to HOLD THE numbers trying to get in. Fear would try to take hold of leaders but He admonished not to FEAR, but to follow HIS LEAD.
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THE SIGN HAS BEEN GIVEN !
' Eight Bells ' - end of the watch ! Glywn McInnes, New Zealand
9-5-2008
The sign has been given !
The bells have been sounded !
The favour and the 'watch' of the Lord is ended,- there is now no escape from the wrath of God !
We have been given many centuries to turn wholly to Him who created us for His pleasure,- but instead, we have sought for, and wearied ourselves in, the pursuit of our own pleasure without Him !
Our 'ankles' have been broken through our running back and forth in search of knowledge,- while we insist on living our way, and we lie at the end of the track we ourselves have made, but unable to enjoy the fruit of our labour !
We, the nations of this world have ignored the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus,- and have shunned the wonderful promises of eternal-bliss inherent in those same promises !
Forging belief-systems by our own mental prowess,- our own cleverness has destroyed us, turning us from our Maker,- our eyes becoming blind to the obvious right way to run,- our hope based only in the work of our hands and the 'human-wisdom' that our erroeous cultures have produced for our 'itching ears' !
We have not remained as God has ordained,- through cleverly rewriting His Word it becomes as a soft blanket, comfortable and all-embracing,- instead of the 'two-edged sword' of it's reality,- separating,- opening, and cutting away our skilfully wrought defences against His righteous and holy leading !
We have reversed the meaning of 'sin' as we hurry to walk in the false-freedom that our evil hearts allow,- placing our feet on the wrong paths, we fall into the ditch at the side of the course !
Thinking that we have run well, we find that all the effort put into the perceived race, produces only a lower-grade finish, and the reward for sin,- death !
Unable to stand on our damaged feet, we lie down, and await our fate,- we hope once more for the blessing of grace,- we look up into the face of our Lord who will stand in the gap for us !
The sign has been given !
The bells denoting the watch's end have rung out !
The High and Holy Watchman has declared an end to all things !
" For I have heard from the Lord God of hosts, a destruction determined even upon the whole earth.- Does the plowman keep plowing all day to sow ?"
Isaiah 28 : 22b, 24. Nkj